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August 27th, 2008


Official PFF Merchandise

There are so many people selling PFF merchandise, I never bothered to actually create and sell my own. But I figured it was about time so you can now buy your "official" PFF merchandise from the new PFF Shop! You can still get your merchandise from the unofficial sources too if you want. In fact, they often offer stuff I don't - like decals and such. So check out their shops too if you are looking for something specific.

The new PFF Shop offers all kinds of merchandise like mugs, hats, shirts and mousepads. I also offer lots of merchandise with the new 2K8 logo (as pictured on the image on the right). So go get your stuff just in time for the 25th anniversary of the Fiero!

- Cliff


July 26th, 2008


Pontiac Fiero 25th Anniversary - Day 3 (By Mark Duford)


The big show is finally here. There is such a buzz in the air as I spoke to folks in and around the hotel grounds. Everyone was walking about 2 feet off the ground.

The first big event happened around 7 AM. 2 large trucks pulled up carrying the 9 GM Fiero Prototypes. They off loaded the cars and brought them into the lot and placed them in a nice picturesque area for the 25th participants to view. This was a huge highlight of the day. Around 11 AM, Mike Kelly, former Fiero plant employee drove in his Fiero. Mike's car is the last Fiero off the assembly line, and it was placed next to the First Fiero. It is a Red 1988 GT.

Fiero fanatics from all over the US & Canada (we even had a guest from Great Britian & Japan) went into the lot early and were detailing their cars, sharing stories and drinking coffee, getting ready for the show. Judging began at 10 AM, and ran until 4 PM.

A few (3 was my count) Indy Pace Car Go-carts were seen buzzing around the lot over the weekend, with a number of Fiero fans driving them around the lot with large grins on their faces.

The cars, the reason we were all there, were simply incredible, from stock to wild, the lot was filled with any type of Fiero one could imagine. It was very cool to get up close and personal with a couple of private owned prototypes (DGP & Yellow PPG) as well as check out the cars up close that we see in pictures here on PFF.

After the show, I heard a few went out to cruise Telegraph Road (US-24), while others chilled out in the pool, and others hung out in the lot. 7 PM beverages were served, and at 8 PM the banquet began. There were some introductions, and then dinner. Dinner was followed by the awards ceremony and guest speaker presentations. This years guest speakers were: Gary Witzenburgh, author of the book "Fiero," John Albert, Designer of the Fiero Pegasus logo, Alex Mayer, Former Vice President of Pontiac Motor Division, and John Callies, Former head of Pontiac Motorsports, the person responsible for building the Indy Pace Car, and driver of the Pace car at the 1984 Indy 500.

A full list of winner will be posted later. Look for more photos in the photo thread.

I spoke with a number of people, and all had good things to say about the entire weekend.

Thank you to all who attended and made the 25th Anniversary Show such a great event! It was awesome to see a lot of old friends as well as new faces.

- Mark Duford


July 25th, 2008


Pontiac Fiero 25th Anniversary - Day 2 (By Mark Duford)


Here is the itinerary of today's events:

Cars & Coffee with the Georgia Fiero Club7 AM – 10 AM
Registration in Hotel Lobby8 AM – 10 PM
25th Anniversary Merchandise sales
(Indoors at the Registration Desk)
8 AM – 10 PM
Car WashAll Day
Car Classification8 AM - DUSK
Photo Shoot
(Immediately after your car is classified)
8 AM – DUSK
Vendor Set up and Sales. Indoors and OutdoorsALL DAY
Fiero Clubs Table Displays (Indoors)ALL DAY
View Fiero historical articles in hospitality room6 PM - 8 PM
GM Heritage Center Tour (pre-registration only)
Meet in Hotel lobby at 12:30 PM
6400 Center Drive, Sterling Heights, MI 48312
2 - 5 PM
Dave & Buster Dinner
45511 Park Avenue Utica, MI 48315 (586-930-1515)
6 PM – ???
Telegraph Cruise
(Ideal event for those not going to Dave & Buster’s. Maps available at Registration desk)
All Day
High Speed Go-Carts at Race Rochester
153 East Tienken, Rochester Hills. (248) 656 - RACE
After Dave & Buster Dinner
View 1988 GT at local McDonald’s Restaurant
30807 Woodward Ave, Royal Oak, MI (248) 435-3160
All Day
Photo Opportunity with Fiero Reunion Banner
(no charge, gather your friends and club members, taken
with your camera)
All Day


- Mark Duford


July 24th, 2008


Pontiac Fiero 25th Anniversary - Day 1 part 2 (By Mark Duford)


Weather was outstanding today. We had 18 Fieros out on the Waterford Hill Track as well as numerous spectators in the stands. Brian Geyser did an awesome job running the event. A big thanks to the Golden Gate Fiero Club for all of their hard work on this one!

We also had a very large number of folks head off to the GM World Headquarters (Ren Cen) in Downtown Detroit for a tour of the building. I did not attend the event, but I was told that there were close to 90 Fiero Fanatics in attendance.

Here at the hotel, registration officially opened, and cars and their owners went through the classification process. At 5:00 PM the Fiero Tailgate party took place out in the parking lot, with Fiero lovers eating hamburgers & hot dogs and drinking their favorite beverage.

At last count we have 107 cars in the lot.

- Mark Duford


July 23rd/24th, 2008


Pontiac Fiero 25th Anniversary - Day 1 (By Mark Duford)


Today was very busy doing last minute preparations. I spent the day working on some things for the banquet, and on the phone. I finally decided it was time to get to Pontiac and left home around 4:00 PM.

I hit the host hotel around 5 PM to see about 15 - 20 Fieros already in the lot. I ran into ohioindy and Mrs. RAREW66 in the lot. Later in the evening I spoke with jbrown, Fierochic88, blakeinspace and a number of other PFF members (I am bad with names, so I am sorry that I could not remember everyone here.)

I took a few photos of the lot last night and put them into the "Official Pictures Thread".

July 24th


I took a few pictures this morning of the lot. There are a few cars and we are expecting more today.



The Track Day at Waterford Hills is the big event today! We also will be having the GM World HQ Tour and a tailgate party in the parking lot at 5 PM.

Here is the itinerary of today's events:

Cars & Coffee with the Georgia Fiero Club7 AM – 10 AM
Registration in Hotel Lobby1 PM - 5 PM & 6PM – 8 PM
25th Anniversary Merchandise sales
(Indoors at the Registration Desk)
1 PM - 5 PM & 6 PM – 8 PM
Car WashAll Day
Car Classification1 PM - DUSK
Photo Shoot
(Immediately after your car is classified)
1 PM – DUSK
Vendor Set up and Sales. Indoors and Outdoors1 PM – 8 PM
Fiero Clubs Table Displays (Indoors)1 PM - 8 PM
Track Day with Golden Gate Fiero Club
At the Waterford Hills Road Race Track located on the
grounds of the Oakland County Sportsmen’s Club,
4770 Waterford Road, Clarkston, MI 48346.
http://www.waterfordhills.com/cms/news.php
9 AM - 5 PM (Tentative)
GM World Headquarters Tour
Meet in Hotel lobby at 1 PM
1 - 4 PM
Fiero Tailgate Party in Host Hotel Parking Lot5 PM – 8 PM
View 1988 GT at local McDonald’s Restaurant
30807 Woodward Ave, Royal Oak, MI (248) 435-3160
All Day
Photo Opportunity with Fiero Reunion Banner
(no charge, gather your friends and club members, taken
with your camera)
All Day


- Mark Duford


July 23rd, 2008


Pontiac Fiero 25th Anniversary!


Tomorrow is the day! This is surely going to be a historic event and I really wish I could be there, but my schedule simply doesn't allow for it. Trust me, I'm incredibly disappointed about that. Anyways, fortunately Mark Duford will keep us absentees updated about what's going on there.

- Cliff


January 4th, 2008


Happy New Year!

As always, I need to apologize for the lack of updates to the main page (this page). It's not that I don't want to update, it's that I really don't have the time to do so. I'd rather spend my time writing additions to the forum since that's where all the action is. I've added lots of stuff in 2007 although I honestly can't remember what exactly. :) I know I've added links to individual posts (so you can link to a specific post inside a thread instead of to the thread itself), an I added a link inside the thread itself to directly add it to your favorites. Oh and I added of course the much requested feedback system for The Mall! Oh and automatically truncating links, YouTube videos, links to subsections from the "Hop To" drop down lists, and a whole bunch of other small additions and fixes. I also did a lot of optimization to the software causing it to run much, much faster in some respects. Most of the time PFF is blazingly fast - considering that for most of you, the PFF server is on the other side of the Atlantic!

But all that means I hardly have any time left writing stuff for the main page. So again, if you have anything newsworthy for the main page, shoot me an email! Heck, maybe you think you will be a great editor running the main page, collecting and editing stories - that's fine too. Again, shoot me an email.

And how about them yearly stats? Here they are: In 2007, 27,118 new threads have been started and 338,749 new messages have been posted (which averages to 928 new messages per day!). This brings the totals to 224,683 threads and 2,519,080 messages! PFF now has 15,205 members and attracted a total 13,114,586 visitors.

For those of you keeping track, you'll notice the number of new threads/messages has dropped quite a bit in 2007. About 2,000 less threads were started, and 15,000 less messages were posted in 2007 than in 2006. Does this mean perhaps that less people are visiting PFF? No, it just means that people apparently have better running cars. :) In 2007, more people registered for PFF than in 2006. Also, PFF received more hits in 2007 than in 2006. And traffic? Traffic has nearly doubled in 2007!

If you wonder what I have in store for 2008, I have many plans. There will be less additions to the forum itself, but many additions to the site. What that exactly means... Well, I guess you just have to wait. ;)

- Cliff


January 11th, 2006


Building a 500+HP Fiero

Many people familiar with the LS1 engine manufactured by General Motors immediately think of the Corvette or Camaro at the mention of this high horsepower motor; few think of a Fiero. Few people, that is, except for those who have seen Nick Wagoner’s LS1-powered notchback. This little car packs a punch, with the 5.7 litre LS1 with an LS6 intake manifold and ported throttle body. The car’s intake was built from 3.5” stainless steel mandrel bent tubing. As if the LS1 wasn’t enough on it’s own, Nick and his father, Greg, custom installed a 150 shot of nitrous with a kit from TNT Nitrous.


In order to feed this monster more efficiently, an MSD in-line fuel pump was installed to keep the unregulated pressure over 70 PSI with a flow rate of up to eighty gallons per hour. A Mallory external bypass pressure regulator was also added to achieve exactly 58 PSI of output pressure. The exhaust system is composed of custom long-tube headers that are 1.75” in diameter and thirty inches in length. They connect to 3” collectors that are 12” long with crossover. The exhaust is finished off with two 3” FlowMaster mufflers.


The transmission of this car is currently in progress. It had been driven with a four speed Muncie that was modified to contain a wide gear ratio that was set to reduce RPM’s in fourth gear. This modification increased fuel mileage to 25mpg on the highway, certainly an accomplishment for any V8. Additionally, the changed set-up of the transmission allowed the car to achieve a top speed of 184 mph (calculated, not measured). The transmission featured a Centerline clutch and flywheel. After two months of success with this transmission, it ultimately decided to give up the ghost. A Getrag five speed has been installed and is currently in the fine-tuning process.


Handling of this car has improved after years of experience by the Wagoner’s in SCCA auto crossing. Upgraded to light weight wheels and tires, performance springs, shocks, stabilizer bar, solid motor and cradle mounts the car was further improved with modifications to rid it of bump steer. All of these enhancements greatly improved the cornering abilities of this Fiero.

The maximum power of the car, as seen by the displayed dyno graph sheet, is 508.8 bhp at 5343 RPM. The maximum torque is 542.9FT pounds at 4363 RPM. Both measurements were achieved at the rear wheels. This high horsepower machine is outfitted with racing brakes and pads to improve it’s stopping capabilities. It weighs 2920 lbs with Nick inside. This machine though is not built for speed alone! That weight measurement also includes a 10 disc Sony CD changer, Jenson 300 watt amplifier and two custom subwoofers placed behind the seats.

This car was a complete father and son project. It took exactly a year to complete. It is certainly no surprise that the license plate reads “KWIK CAR.” It certainly is one!

- Jen (Fierochic88)


January 11th, 2006


PFF for PDA! Again!

Apparantly, the PDA version of PFF is being used more than I thought. So those of you that do probably noticed I made several changes to it. The most notable being that you can now post new topics and reply to existing ones! Cool, no? :)



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